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Democratic Club Calls for Support for Challenged Textbooks

Plymouth Democratic Club urges those in favor of keeping 'Waterland' and 'Beloved' in classroom to speak at school board meeting.

 

The Plymouth Democratic Club has sent a mass email in response to a parent group lobbying for the removal of Graham Swift's Waterland and Toni Morrison's Beloved.

Waterland was removed from the AP classrooms where it was taught last month after a parent of a 17-year-old student at Plymouth-Canton Educational Park complained to Superintendent Jeremy Hughes. The same parents — Matt and Barb Dame — challenged Beloved, which currently is undergoing review by the district.

At a Monday meeting, the Parents & Community Advocates for PCCS, or P-CAP, parents shared concerns about the contents of the two books, citing gratuitous sexual descriptions and violence and questioning the books' educational value.

The group said it will follow up with school administrators to ensure existing rules are enforced and to make sure proper protocol is followed when assigning required texts to students. The group called on concerned parents to attend tonight's 7 p.m. school board meeting at the E.J. McClendon Educational Center, 454 S. Harvey St. in Plymouth.

The Democratic club is calling on parents and supporters to do the same, but with its focus on keeping the books in classrooms. In its email, the group said the books, which "have long been on the reading list for AP English are currently under attack."

The Democratic Club cited the parent group's political ties in its email, characterizing the group as one "with tea party ties."

While the group members' political affiliations were not discussed at the Monday meeting or on the P-CAP website, Matt Dame, who campaigned unsuccessfully in the November 2011 school board election as a slate of candidates endorsed and funded in part by the Wayne 11th Congressional District Republican Committee, has previously been active with Rattle With Us, a tea party group in Michigan. The slate also included Mike Andro, Mark Horvath and Mike Maloney. Horvath and Maloney earned seats on the board.

"If they are successful, we will be sure to see more of this extremist censorship," the Democratic Club's email said.

  • Should the novels "Waterland" and "Beloved" be kept in or dropped from Plymouth-Canton Salem High School's AP English Program?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Both should be kept.
        7967 (85%)
    • Keep "Waterland;" drop 'Beloved."
        18 (0%)
    • Keep "Beloved;" drop "Waterland."
        19 (0%)
    • Both should be dropped.
        1315 (14%)
    Total votes: 9319
  • This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Beloved, Waterland, and book banning

NCS

2:57 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Don't sign the permission slip to let your child take AP English if you don't want him/her reading the books!!!! Read the books yourself before taking out excerpts and claiming that the book as a whole is basically porno on paper... Lazy parents annoy the heck out of me

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Tim Stamp

3:01 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

NCS, are you proposing that a working parent is supposed to read their child's entire curriculum throughout their 12 year education experience? Yeah, lazy parents alright. How about we demand everyone start using common sense, with the education of our kids.

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NCS

3:07 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Maybe not every book, I'm realistic, but when it comes to an AP English class that may have "controversial" material you could spend the summer before perhaps reading 2 or 3 novels. Do you really think that is unfair to ask? I work full time and still read about a novel per week... Maybe I'm just a fast reader... Sorry

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Tim Stamp

3:20 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Why even have "controversial" material in a high school English class? Part of me wants to say why not stick with the classics (Tale of Two Cites, To Kill A Mockingbird, Gone WIth the Wind, Great Expectations, etc...)? Although I do realize the need to represent the new and to contrast the two eras and styles of writing. However, like I said, why bring controversial material into the classroom of an English class? I'm sure there are modern novels that everyone could agree on.

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NCS

3:30 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

I'm definitely not trying to start a war over this subject, and I feel you have very valid points. However, AP English technically is not a high school English class. It is worth college credit and is taught specifically for the students who are deemed mature enough to handle the potential "controversial" material. I read most of the books you mentioned in my 9th grade English class (at P-CEP) and on my own around that time. There is nothing wrong with them at all, but this is AP English. No one is forced to take it, and frankly it is not meant for the majority of high school students either. Thoughts?

Tim Stamp

2:59 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

I like how they point out that someone has "Tea party ties" like they're part of Al Queda or some terrorist group. Get real. To the Democratic club's comment complaining about "extremist censorship", do you let you kids watch porn? No, porn is probably not the same as this book, but censorship is censorship, and sometimes it's the parents' responsibility to censor what their kids are exposed to.

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KateB

3:46 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Tim, parents do have the opportunity to censor what their kids read--this class is not required by any means and parents have the opportunity to opt their child out of reading texts they don't view as appropriate. Also, some of the books you list as appropriate definitely have controversial content--for example, rape in To Kill a Mockingbird and language and depiction of African Americans in Gone With the Wind (and I have to beg to differ with you on naming Gone With the Wind as a classic, it's a pretty silly story).

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Tim Stamp

3:54 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

History is history, Kate. We can't change that, and we're not going to ban history books because of what some people did to other people. Gotta run!

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Julie N

3:14 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I think what Tim means is it's ok to be offensive in a book as long as you're not offending white people.

KateB

4:01 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Not talking about changing history. And no mention of an actual history book was mentioned. Historical FICTION does not equal history.

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Susan Clark

5:40 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

We all grew up reading the classics. They don't make change us, they enhance the understanding of the era that the books were written in. I don't agree with the changes people want to make to Tom Sawyer nor do I agree with hiding these books.

The kids see more in the movies and that is much more blatant!

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Marybeth Taffe Miller

10:23 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Is this a case of parents lacking trust in the judgment and ability of their children's teachers? There will always be disagreement regarding the directions children take as they are educated for adult life, which is an objective of that education. The choices they will make based on their knowledge and experience, unless parental desire is for absolute imitation, reflect their ability to apply critical thinking to decision-making. The study of literature, which includes the writings of far more controversial authors than those in question here, supports the creation and growth of those skills, within an environment of thoughtful discussion and exchange of ideas. If parents do not trust the teachers to manage this, the problem of censorship presents itself in many more areas than this AP literature classroom.

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DM

8:26 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

It is clear to me that this is a case of parental laziness or worse, politically-motivated strong-arming.

Had Mr. and Mrs. Dame spent a half-hour reading reviews of the books on Amazon.com, they might have had a better idea of the "mature content" included in Mrs. Miller's curricula and made alternate arrangements.

Furthermore, once they found out (from their daughter) that the content was objectionable to them, they elected to use their political connections to circumvent the "chain of command."

There's a lesson here: Be lazy, then everyone will suffer the consequences, not you.

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Mike Andro

8:58 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Just curious, what political connections were involved or did you just throw that in for good measure?

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DM

9:44 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Mike,

Horvath & Maloney. It would appear you share the same connections.

References:
http://www.savepccs.com/
http://www.pccs.k12.mi.us/node/1379

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Mike Andro

9:50 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I have associations with many people from across the board. I also look at each issue on it's own merits. I fully support all the new board members who were elected by our community. Thanks for your interest in our schools.

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Tim Stamp

10:52 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Quoted from DM: "There's a lesson here: Be lazy, then everyone will suffer the consequences, not you."

Haha! Isn't that what the liberals and the current administration are teaching the folks on welfare and our entire country?

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DM

2:00 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Tim,

The issue here is informed consent and parental responsibility. The Obama administration and "welfare" have nothing to do with the issue at hand.

DM

10:03 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I as well. Welcome to Plymouth.

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Geogirl

10:17 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Wow! My daughter just transferred to this school district, I was already having doubts...thanks for confirming my fears. I would like my daughter to be able to think for herself when she grows up.

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1:10 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

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