When Plymouth-Canton voters head to the polls May 7, they'll consider a $114 million bond proposal to replace an aging Central Middle School, replace buses and upgrade technology throughout the district.
The $114 bond proposal, which the district says will not increase the district's current millage rate of 4.1 mills if passed, will replace Central Middle School with a new building on district-owned property at Canton Center and Cherry Hill roads in Canton, install fiberoptic networking throughout the district, add tablet devices and laptop computers to each K-12 student, make building improvements and gradually replace the district's outdated fleet of buses.
If the bond is approved, voters would opt to hold the rate from an existing millage at 4.1 mills rather than decreasing to 3.75, or saving about $35 a year for owners of a $200,000 home.
The election will take place May 7. The final day to register to vote is April 8, and the final day to vote absentee is May 6.
Plymouth-Canton Community Schools offers additional details on the many facets of the bond on its district website.
Will you support this bond? Vote in our poll and tell us why in the comments.
Mike
1:19 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Please post a link to the detailed proposal. $114 Million seems shy of building a middle school, adding Fiber Optic data lines to all school buildings, and buying thousands of tables or laptops. Also please document the terms of the proposed bond. What is the Bond Rating for PCCS, What is the coupon for this bond, what is the term of this bond? Given the current saturation of the Bond Market this could cost the district more than expected. Also what is the useful expected life of a Tablet or Laptop do these devices qualify as capital? How many times over the life of the bond do these devices need to be replaced? What plan does the district have to ensure tables and laptops are properly cared for. Does this plan include phasing out of textbooks and does it include license costs for electronic licensing of textbook material?
Maddiex
4:27 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
All this information is on the school website....click on 2013 bond
Michael Pare
5:16 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Here is a direct link to the financial information:
http://www.pccs.k12.mi.us/sites/pccs.k12.mi.us/files/shared/district/bond2013/FinancialDetails.pdf
This article also provides detailed financial information:
http://www.hometownlife.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2013303100447
And this article give detailed information on the technology aspect of the bond:
http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20130310/NEWS15/303100444/Plymouth-Canton-schools-aims-prepare-students-digital-age
John McKay
1:47 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
The idea is textbooks soon will be completely digital with these devices - the current textbook budget is about $1 million.
I am updating the story with a link to the district's FAQ regarding the bond.
Ruth Frownfelter
3:05 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Putting your whole "wish list" on one bond proposal is risky. You'll get all or nothing! I have seen other school districts try this, and they got nothing. It would be better to offer separate bond proposals for 1) building the new middle school, 2) installing fiberoptic networking throughout the district and purchasing tablet devices or laptop computers for each K-12 student, phasing out the use of textbooks, 3) making building improvements, and 4) replacing the district's outdated fleet of buses.
Denise Zander
4:27 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Ruth, the district did a facilities assessment and identified their 5 year needs and 10 year needs. It was important to them that the bond not be an increase in mills, so they paired down their list and could not even include all the 5 year items. This is not a wish list, the items in the bond are imminent needs. Without the bond the district will have to use general funds to replace some of our buses that exceeded their useful life to ensure safe and reliable transportation for our students; to upgrade their technology infrastructure to meet the state requirements for online MEAP testing; to make the facilities upgrades to ensure the safety and security of all the buildings; and something will have to be done regarding upgrading Central (the last estimate was $27m). The fund reserve of the district is not sufficient to cover all of these costs. Without the bond, the only other option is to use general fund money, which means reduced resources in the classrooms. Our district has traditionally run very lean, and has relied on bond money to fund major capital investments. They have also proven to be very fiscally responsible with the bond money they have received in the past. It is because of their fiscal responsibility that we have the opportunity to make all the proposed bond enhancements and keep our school taxes at the current rate.
Karen Colone
4:21 pm on Tuesday, May 7, 2013
What about the declining enrollments in the Middle Schools? The 5 year student projection (not including the loss of students in 7th & 8th grade to charter or private schools) would be aprox. 3646 total middle school students with the currents middle school capacity of 4475 that would be almost a 20% decline in students. Almost enough to close Central Middle School by the fall of 2017 (projected enrollments 3646 and capacity not including Central would be 3630 students) Why a new school for 15 students? It seems like a waste of our hard earned tax payer money. The new school won't even be ready until 2015 or later.
They didn't fix the "student inequities" in the last 10 years with no guarantee they'll fix them in the next 5 - 10 years. I've done a lot of research on this & I'm not sold.
Plus I'm not happy with our district making the high school academies "School of Choice" for Wayne County students for 2013/14 (with a guarantee in our High Schools until they graduate, no PRA needed). This is just the beginning & why should we pay on a bond for other Wayne County residents to reap the rewards. I think openning the district up to "School of Choice" in any capacity to fill the declining enrollments will effect the quality of our students education.
Mike
8:46 am on Friday, March 15, 2013
Thank You All for the Links to the district website, this answers some of my questions but raises more concerns. My biggest objection is the 1:1 Technology miss-conception.
1. The Bond would pay off short lifetime items early, but it does not address replacing these items. So, it looks like we can look forward to another bond issue when the millage is set to go down again.
2. Using a laptop or a tablet does not teach you technology. My senior had her required Computer Class last year. It taught her to type. I was hoping for her to learn MS Excel or Access, but no she learned and was tested on typing speed.
3. Many teachers are making better use of their internet resources. Moodle seems to be becoming wider used and with better information.
I can support the other technology initiatives, the High Speed Data Link, Greater Storage, WLAN open to students, and replacing old computers are all reasonable improvements. I would however like these items placed in a bond with a life similar to them.
The augments put forth by the board on the new middle school make some sense. Although they only whine about Central because it is old, is a little disconcerting. Yes the construction industry is still in a slump, so now would be good, but the Bond Market is rather saturated. What is PCCS's Bond Rating? This will greatly affect the rate available.
Sorry I missed the meetings on this, also why can't this Bond wait until the November election?
Maddiex
12:47 am on Saturday, March 16, 2013
http://www.pccs.k12.mi.us/node/1728
Link to an article on the p-ccs website that mention s that the district bond rating is Aa2. Mike this info is easy to find....why dont you just look it up? Im thinking you are a poser pretending to be a concerned taxpayer but only throwing out "fake" concerns. If you have a question why dont you just ask them? Why are so many other districts going for a bond this may? Are they all so uninformed on all these issues, or is it just pccs?
Mike
10:16 am on Friday, March 15, 2013
I found some additional information that would be interesting to taxpayers.
A currently issued PCCS Bond CUSIP 729429LV0 has a coupon of 3% and a yield of 2.872%. Additional information available at:
http://emma.msrb.org/SecurityView/SecurityDetails.aspx?cusip=729429LV0
This Bond is Rated AA2 As of this morning a 20 year Municipal Bonds yield 4.841% and are on their way up. The 10 year Treasury note is at 2.03%
Why I have concerns, The Bond Market is saturated. Why do I say this? Because the Federal Government is continuing to deficit spend and the Fed is buying debt by issuing money. This drives inflation, most investors are hedging their portfolios by investing in the stock market, one reason we have day after day records. The Fed has announced that they will not raise rates until inflation crosses 2%.
Given the Tax Benefits of municipal bonds it only makes sense to gamble with your after tax savings. Most people don’t have significant after tax reserves to invest. Most bonds have a minimum investment of $5000 (face value). In this market even a small fish like me can make better investments that this, so the coupon on a new bond will have to be higher than the PCCS board is estimating in their presentation.
Maddiex
7:23 pm on Friday, March 15, 2013
You should e-mail that exact question to the district board office and then post the answer they give you on this thread
Kr
12:31 am on Saturday, May 4, 2013
I am concerned about the location of the proposed middle school
Kr
4:03 pm on Sunday, May 5, 2013
A charter high school will be built right next to the proposed middle school site.
Jim Mulhern
9:25 pm on Monday, May 6, 2013
As a resident of Plymouth with two children in the PCCS schools, I am strongly in support of this bond. In a few short years my children will graduate out of this district, but I see and value the long-term benefit of maintaining high standards and high performing schools.
Our Plymouth & Canton communities are desirable and growing. The PCCS school system is very good and continues to perform despite less and less support from Lansing. Our strong schools are a draw to people who seek to move to communities with good schools, infrastructure and community amenities. This bond will provide prudent investment to deal with imminent needs to keep our district competitive.
I thank the volunteers, administrators and teachers for their hard work they put in to educate our kids, and for those whose proactivity put forth this bond initiative. I encourage my neighbors who value living in Plymouth and Canton to vote YES on May 7th.
Karen Colone
12:32 pm on Tuesday, May 7, 2013
I'm not sure where everyone is getting their information on our district growing? What about the closing of the elementary schools? They've already said they plan on having lower enrollments & not utilizing our middle schools to full capacity?